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The locus classicus for the mind-body problem in Western philosophy is generally taken to be:
René Descartes, Meditations on First Philosophy (1641), especially the Sixth Meditation: “On the Existence of Material Things, and the Real Distinction between Mind and Body.”
Key Content:
- Descartes argues that mind (res cogitans) and body (res extensa) are distinct substances with entirely different natures:
- The mind is unextended, indivisible, and essentially thinking.
- The body is extended, divisible, and non-thinking.
- He introduces the idea of substance dualism, which gives the mind-body problem its classical formulation: How can two substances with such different essences causally interact?
- Famous quote: “I am not merely present in my body as a sailor is present in a ship…” (Sixth Meditation)
This formulation sets the terms for much of modern philosophy:
- Interactionism (how do mind and body affect each other?)
- Materialist responses (is the mind reducible to the brain?)
- Idealist responses (is matter reducible to mind?)
- and later developments in behaviorism, functionalism, and contemporary philosophy of mind.
Historical Note:
While earlier thinkers (e.g., Plato in Phaedo, Aristotle in De Anima) discuss the soul and body, they don’t clearly frame the mind-body relation as a metaphysical problem in the same way. Descartes’ framing—in a mechanistic worldview newly emerging in the 17th century—created the modern version of the dilemma.
Would you like key follow-up texts that respond directly to Descartes on this issue (e.g. Princess Elisabeth, Spinoza, or Ryle)?
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what about the discussion of C.D. Broad
ChatGPT said:
C. D. Broad gives one of the most systematic and influential 20th-century treatments of the mind-body problem, and his clearest, most canonical discussion—often cited as his locus classicus on the topic—is:
C. D. Broad, The Mind and Its Place in Nature (1925)
Why This Is the Locus Classicus for Broad’s Mind-Body Framework:
- Chapter I: “The Problem Stated”
Broad lays out the central question: What is the relation between mental phenomena and material phenomena?
He formulates this as a metaphysical problem, not just a linguistic or epistemological one. - Chapter II: “Various Theories of the Relation of Mind and Matter”
This chapter contains Broad’s famous matrix of mind-body theories, a classification scheme that distinguishes:- Substance dualism
- Reductive materialism
- Emergent materialism
- Panpsychism
- Spiritualism
- Neutral monism, etc.
- The ontological status of mind and matter
- Whether either is reducible or emergent from the other
- Whether the other is illusory or real
- Later chapters (e.g., Chapter IX: “The Theories of Perception”)
Broad defends a form of epistemological realism and engages critically with idealism, behaviorism, and other views.
Broad’s Contribution Compared to Descartes:
- Descartes gave the problem its modern shape by positing two substances with different essences.
- Broad provided the definitive classification and taxonomy of the possible solutions, allowing for a nuanced and pluralistic map of positions beyond simple dualism and materialism.
If you’re studying the mind-body problem in a systematic or comparative way, The Mind and Its Place in Nature is Broad’s essential text and his locus classicus on the subject.
Would you like a diagram of Broad’s classification matrix for mind-body theories?
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yes
ChatGPT said:
Here is a visual summary of C.D. Broad’s matrix of mind-matter theories, mapping different ontological positions based on whether mind and matter are treated as real, emergent, delusive, or reducible. This structure helps clarify the variety of philosophical theories beyond a simple materialist–dualist dichotomy.
Would you like a text version of this table or an explanation of specific positions within it?
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text version
ChatGPT said:
Here is the text version of C.D. Broad’s matrix of mind-body theories, summarizing how different theories classify the ontological status of mind and matter:
| Material | Mind | Theory |
|---|---|---|
| Real | Real | Substance Dualism |
| Real | Delusive | Reductive Materialism |
| Real | Emergent | Emergent Materialism |
| Real | Reducible | Identity Theory (Type Physicalism) |
| Delusive | Real | Idealism / Phenomenalism |
| Emergent | Real | Emergent Idealism |
| Reducible | Real | Mind–Matter Identity (reverse) |
| Both Emergent from Neutral | Both Emergent from Neutral | Neutral Monism / Dual-Aspect Theory |
Notes:
- Substance Dualism (e.g., Descartes): Mind and matter are distinct, co-equal substances.
- Reductive Materialism: Mind is not real, only physical processes are real.
- Emergent Materialism: Mind emerges from matter but is not reducible to it.
- Identity Theory: Mental states are identical to brain states (mind is reducible to matter).
- Idealism: Only mind exists; matter is an illusion or construct.
- Emergent Idealism: Matter emerges from mind.
- Mind–Matter Identity (reverse): Matter is reducible to mind.
- Neutral Monism: Both mind and matter emerge from a more fundamental, neutral substance (e.g., Spinoza, Russell).
Would you like to see where certain historical philosophers fall within this matrix?
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yes
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Here’s how various historical philosophers and key figures in philosophy of mind map onto Broad’s matrix of mind-matter theories:
| Material | Mind | Theory | Philosophers / Figures |
|---|---|---|---|
| Real | Real | Substance Dualism | René Descartes, Samuel Clarke |
| Real | Delusive | Reductive Materialism | Thomas Hobbes, some Behaviorists (e.g. Watson, Skinner) |
| Real | Emergent | Emergent Materialism | C. D. Broad, Samuel Alexander, Roger Sperry |
| Real | Reducible | Identity Theory (Type Physicalism) | J.J.C. Smart, U.T. Place, David Armstrong |
| Delusive | Real | Idealism / Phenomenalism | George Berkeley, Immanuel Kant (empirical idealism) |
| Emergent | Real | Emergent Idealism | Less common; possibly interpretations of Hegel |
| Reducible | Real | Mind–Matter Identity (reverse) | Arthur Schopenhauer (will as essence of reality) |
| Both Emergent from Neutral | Both Emergent from Neutral | Neutral Monism / Dual-Aspect Theory | Baruch Spinoza, Bertrand Russell, William James |
Comments:
- Some thinkers shift between positions depending on interpretation (e.g., Kant can be seen as both an idealist and a kind of dual-aspect theorist).
- Modern panpsychists like Galen Strawson or Philip Goff often revive versions of neutral monism or reverse identity theory, sometimes arguing that matter is fundamentally mental.
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