By “utopian socialism” did Marx and Engels have in mind the intentional communities in the US?

ChatGPT said:

When Marx and Engels referred to “utopian socialism,” they were not specifically targeting the intentional communities in the United States, though those communities were part of the broader phenomenon they critiqued. Instead, they had in mind a variety of early socialist thinkers and movements, primarily European, who advocated for socialism through idealistic, often non-revolutionary means. These figures included thinkers like:

  1. Charles Fourier – Known for proposing self-sustaining communities called “Phalansteries,” which would operate on cooperative principles.
  2. Henri de Saint-Simon – Emphasized the idea of a planned society led by industrialists and scientists, with a focus on improving the welfare of all.
  3. Robert Owen – A British industrialist who created model communities, such as New Lanark in Scotland and later attempted similar projects in the United States, like New Harmony in Indiana.

Marx and Engels critiqued these “utopian socialists” because they believed their approach was too idealistic and failed to address the material conditions and class struggles that, according to Marx and Engels, were the true engines of historical change. They saw the utopians as attempting to create socialism through moral persuasion and small-scale experiments, rather than through a mass movement rooted in the working class and economic realities.

The intentional communities in the U.S., like those inspired by Fourier and Owen, were certainly part of the trend of utopian socialism, and Marx and Engels were aware of them. However, their primary critique was directed at the theoretical and philosophical foundations of utopian socialism, which they felt lacked a scientific understanding of historical materialism and class dynamics. They contrasted “utopian socialism” with their own “scientific socialism,” which emphasized the role of class struggle and economic forces in achieving social change.

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Didn’t the intentional communities in the US call rhemselves Owenite or Fourinite?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, many of the intentional communities in the United States did identify as Owenite or Fourierist (often called “Fourierite”). These communities were directly inspired by the ideas of Robert Owen and Charles Fourier, and they attempted to implement their visions of cooperative and egalitarian living. Here’s a bit more detail:

  1. Owenite Communities:
    • Followers of Robert Owen, called “Owenites,” sought to create communities based on cooperative labor, communal ownership, and egalitarian principles.
    • One of the most famous Owenite experiments in the U.S. was New Harmony, Indiana, which was founded by Owen himself in 1825. Although it eventually failed due to practical challenges, it was an influential early attempt at communal living.
    • Owen’s followers in America established various other small communities inspired by his ideas.
  2. Fourierist Communities (Fourierites):
    • Inspired by Charles Fourier, Fourierists in the United States sought to create self-sufficient, cooperative communities known as Phalanxes or Phalansteries, based on Fourier’s concept of harmonious living.
    • In the 1840s, several Fourierist communities were established in the U.S., including Brook Farm in Massachusetts (initially a Transcendentalist community that later adopted Fourierist ideas) and the North American Phalanx in New Jersey.
    • These communities sought to overcome the competitive and alienating aspects of capitalism through cooperative labor and shared resources, following Fourier’s detailed guidelines for social organization.

While these communities did not represent the entirety of utopian socialism, they were concrete manifestations of the ideals critiqued by Marx and Engels. The founders and members of these communities explicitly linked themselves to the ideas of Owen and Fourier, giving rise to the terms “Owenite” and “Fourierite.” This link illustrates why Marx and Engels associated such movements with “utopian socialism”—they were seen as idealistic experiments that did not address the underlying capitalist structure or advocate for a broader revolutionary change.

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Can the properties of water be inferred fom the properties of hydrogen and oxygen?

ChatGPT said:

The properties of water cannot be fully inferred just from the properties of hydrogen and oxygen alone. This is because water exhibits emergent properties—characteristics that arise from the specific combination and interactions of hydrogen and oxygen atoms, which are not predictable from the properties of the individual elements in isolation.

Key Points:

  1. Emergent Properties:
    • Water’s behavior, like its liquid state at room temperature, high boiling point, and surface tension, are not directly predictable by just looking at hydrogen (a light, highly reactive gas) and oxygen (a heavier gas supporting combustion).
    • When hydrogen and oxygen combine to form water (H₂O), they create a unique molecular structure with distinct properties that emerge from the interactions within the molecule.
  2. Chemical Bonding:
    • Water molecules are formed through covalent bonding between hydrogen and oxygen. This creates a polar molecule, with a partial positive charge on the hydrogen atoms and a partial negative charge on the oxygen atom.
    • This polarity leads to hydrogen bonding between water molecules, giving water its unique properties like high cohesion, adhesion, and the ability to dissolve many substances.
  3. Phase Behavior:
    • The phases of water (solid, liquid, gas) and the specific conditions under which these changes occur are not straightforward predictions from the behavior of hydrogen and oxygen gases.
  4. Anomalous Properties:
    • Water’s density behavior—such as expanding upon freezing and being less dense as a solid (ice) than as a liquid—is an example of an emergent property not easily deduced from hydrogen and oxygen properties.

In conclusion, while knowledge of hydrogen and oxygen gives clues (like the fact that they can react to form a stable compound), predicting the specific properties of water requires understanding the interaction of these elements in the context of molecular chemistry, where emergent phenomena come into play.

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You said:

Are the propeties of chemical compounds emergent?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, the properties of chemical compounds are generally considered emergent. This means that the characteristics of a chemical compound cannot be completely predicted just by knowing the properties of its individual constituent elements. Instead, the properties emerge from the interactions between the elements when they form chemical bonds and adopt a particular molecular structure.

Why Properties of Compounds are Emergent:

  1. Chemical Bonding and Interactions:
    • When elements form a compound, they engage in chemical bonding (such as covalent, ionic, or metallic bonds), resulting in a new molecular or crystal structure.
    • These interactions create properties that are not found in the individual elements. For example, sodium (a reactive metal) and chlorine (a toxic gas) form sodium chloride (NaCl), which is common table salt with properties drastically different from its components.
  2. Molecular Geometry and Shape:
    • The specific arrangement of atoms in a molecule influences its physical and chemical behavior. Water (H₂O), for example, has a bent molecular shape due to the polar covalent bonds between hydrogen and oxygen, leading to properties like surface tension and the ability to act as a solvent.
    • The three-dimensional structure of a molecule plays a significant role in determining its interactions with other molecules, impacting its reactivity, boiling and melting points, and other properties.
  3. Collective Phenomena:
    • In compounds, collective phenomena often arise, such as hydrogen bonding in water, which leads to its high boiling point, heat capacity, and unusual density changes upon freezing.
    • These collective behaviors are not apparent from the isolated properties of individual atoms or elements.
  4. Phase Transitions and States of Matter:
    • The state of matter of a compound (solid, liquid, gas) and the conditions under which it transitions between these states often involve complex interactions that are not predictable just from the properties of the individual elements.
  5. New Chemical and Physical Properties:
    • A compound can have new color, taste, density, hardness, electrical conductivity, and reactivity that are distinct from those of the elements that make it up. For example, carbon can exist as graphite (soft, conducts electricity) or diamond (hard, insulating), depending on how the carbon atoms are bonded together.

Conclusion:

Emergent properties illustrate that a compound is more than just a sum of its parts. The interactions and configurations of atoms in a chemical compound result in novel properties, highlighting the complexity and unpredictability that chemistry can entail when moving from elements to compounds.

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What is bullshit?

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“Bullshit” is a slang term used to describe something that is false, misleading, or deceptive. It can also refer to nonsense, exaggeration, or a statement that someone doesn’t believe is true. People often use it when they think someone is lying, making something up, or wasting time with trivial or irrelevant information.

For example:

  • If someone tells an unbelievable story, you might say, “That’s bullshit.”
  • If someone gives an excuse that doesn’t make sense, you might say, “Stop feeding me bullshit.”

The word is informal and can be offensive, so it’s typically used in casual or strong language contexts.

Milton Friedman’s Hidden Anarchism in Capitalism and Freedom

Andrew Chrucky

Aug. 8, 2008

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Andrew Chrucky’s analysis of Milton Friedman’s Capitalism and Freedom (1962) offers an intriguing critique that situates Friedman’s ideas within an anarchist framework. Chrucky’s argument revolves around the perceived inconsistency between Friedman’s principles of limited government intervention and his failure to address the conditions necessary for the existence of truly “independent households,” a core aspect of Friedman’s libertarian vision. Let’s break down the evaluation:

Friedman’s Two Principles and Chrucky’s Critique

Chrucky begins by outlining two explicit political principles that Friedman presents in the opening chapters of Capitalism and Freedom:

  1. The principle of minimal government intervention in economic matters, arguing that the government’s role should be limited to protecting individual freedoms.
  2. The importance of voluntary, mutually beneficial exchanges in economic and political interactions, which aligns with a laissez-faire system.

Chrucky agrees with these principles in theory but argues that Friedman’s applications of these principles are problematic because they ignore an essential third principle: the condition of independent households. This third principle, Chrucky argues, is implicit in Friedman’s work but is never directly addressed.

The Anarchist Critique

Chrucky suggests that Friedman’s vision of an ideal society aligns with anarchism, at least in the sense that it describes a world where individuals or households interact voluntarily without coercion. According to Chrucky, anarchism can be understood as:

  1. A community of independent households, each self-sufficient and able to exchange goods and services freely.
  2. Political and economic cooperation through voluntary agreements rather than state-imposed laws or force.

The central problem, as Chrucky sees it, is that in industrialized societies, “independent households” are a myth. True independence—particularly economic independence—requires access to subsistence land, a condition that industrial societies, particularly capitalist ones, systematically deny. In these societies, land is privately owned and subject to taxation or other legal controls, meaning that households are not independent in the way Friedman envisions. The absence of access to land makes true independence impossible for most people, leading to a system of dependency.

Friedman’s Oversight of Independent Households

Chrucky argues that if Friedman were truly committed to his vision of independent households, he would need to advocate for agrarian reform, which would involve redistributing land to ensure that everyone has access to the resources necessary to live independently. However, Friedman fails to address this issue, which Chrucky interprets as a major oversight. Instead of addressing land access or proposing a reform to guarantee independence, Friedman focuses on policies like the negative income tax, which Chrucky argues would merely create dependence on the state or on other households. A truly independent household, according to Chrucky, should not rely on transfers from others but should be self-sustaining.

The “Robinson Crusoe” Problem

Chrucky highlights a key passage in Capitalism and Freedom where Friedman uses the example of Robinson Crusoe to illustrate the principle of voluntary exchange and the role of property rights. In this thought experiment, Crusoe, stranded on an island, decides whether to share his resources with others who are similarly stranded. Friedman uses this scenario to argue against forced redistribution of wealth, suggesting that it would be unjust for the three Crusoes on barren islands to compel the Crusoe with a large, fruitful island to share his wealth.

Chrucky criticizes this analogy, pointing out that land is not like a random $20 bill one might find on the street. Access to land, especially arable land for subsistence, is a fundamental need, not just a luxury. The analogy breaks down because it fails to address the necessity of land for survival, and instead treats property as a matter of individual choice and chance. Chrucky argues that if Friedman’s theory of independent households is to hold, it should require a universal right to land or a subsistence land guarantee for all individuals.

Implicit Entitlement Theory and Inequities of Land Distribution

Friedman’s apparent acceptance of entitlement theory—the idea that people’s rights to property are just based on their first occupancy or acquisition—also comes under scrutiny from Chrucky. Chrucky contends that while entitlement theory may apply to things like personal labor or wealth one has accumulated, it fails to justify existing land holdings, which are the product of historical decisions and social structures (such as colonialism or feudalism) that do not reflect the principles of voluntary exchange or equality.

Chrucky suggests that an anarchist perspective would demand a recognition of the unjust nature of current land ownership patterns and would call for a system that guarantees individuals access to land as a basic right. Only then could individuals be truly independent in the way that Friedman envisions.

The Role of Government in Anarchism

Chrucky challenges Friedman’s belief that government intervention is inherently coercive and should be minimized or eliminated. Anarchists, as Chrucky points out, are not necessarily against all forms of government but are against coercive, centralized state power. Anarchism, as Chrucky sees it, envisions a decentralized form of governance, where voluntary agreements between independent households form the basis of social coordination. This kind of system could allow for the cooperative, voluntary economic relationships that Friedman advocates without relying on state-enforced policies.

For Chrucky, the ideal system of government would not be a top-down bureaucratic state but a federation of independent households—a decentralized community where households coordinate with one another through voluntary contracts or delegates, much like the Amish or federated communes. This, he argues, would be a closer realization of Friedman’s vision than the current model of centralized governance.

Conclusion: The Inconsistencies in Friedman’s Vision

Ultimately, Chrucky concludes that Friedman’s principles are inconsistent because he overlooks the necessary conditions for true economic independence—namely, access to subsistence land. Without addressing this issue, Friedman’s ideas about voluntary exchange and minimal government intervention are, at best, idealistic and, at worst, impractical and inconsistent with the reality of dependency in modern society. For a truly anarchistic society to emerge, Chrucky argues, it would require not only decentralized government and laissez-faire economics but also a universal right to subsistence land for all individuals.

This critique invites a deeper exploration of the ways in which anarchism and libertarianism might intersect, offering a vision of a society where individual autonomy is protected by ensuring that all have access to the basic resources necessary for independence.

Are there any anarchistic communities?

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Yes, there have been and continue to be various anarchistic communities, both historically and in modern times. Anarchism as a political philosophy advocates for self-managed, stateless societies where people organize themselves without hierarchical authority structures. Here are a few examples of anarchistic communities, both past and present:

1. Historical Anarchist Communities

  • The Spanish Revolution (1936-1939): During the Spanish Civil War, particularly in Catalonia and Aragon, anarchist groups (mainly the CNT-FAI—Confederación Nacional del Trabajo and Federación Anarquista Ibérica) organized large areas under anarchist principles. In these territories, industries, agriculture, and communities were collectivized and run by workers’ councils, without centralized government control. These areas are often seen as one of the largest and most successful examples of anarchism in practice.
  • Kropotkin’s Mutual Aid Communities: Peter Kropotkin, a famous anarchist thinker, advocated for mutual aid as a natural feature of human society. While not a specific historical community, his ideas were influential in many anarchist projects and inspired mutual aid networks and cooperative communities that sought to implement anarchist principles.

2. Modern Anarchist Communities

  • Christiania (Copenhagen, Denmark): Founded in 1971, Christiania is a self-proclaimed autonomous neighborhood in Copenhagen. It was established by a group of people who took over an abandoned military barracks and developed it into a commune with its own rules, independent of the Danish state. The community runs on principles of self-governance, communal living, and collective decision-making. Although it has faced challenges and state pressure, Christiania has remained a symbol of anarchistic living.
  • ZAD (Zone à Défendre) in France: The ZAD is an area of land in France that has been occupied by activists in opposition to large-scale infrastructure projects, such as the proposed construction of an airport in Notre-Dame-des-Landes. The activists have created a space where they live collectively, often in direct opposition to state and corporate power. ZAD communities often organize around principles of direct action, ecology, and anarchism, creating autonomous zones free from state authority.
  • The Autonomous Region of the Kurdish People (Rojava): In northern Syria, the Kurdish-led autonomous region of Rojava has implemented a system inspired by anarchism and democratic confederalism, a model developed by the Kurdish leader Abdullah Öcalan. The region has emphasized grassroots democracy, women’s liberation, and cooperative economics, although it faces external military threats and internal challenges. Rojava’s governance is based on local councils, direct democracy, and cooperative management of resources.
  • Freetown of Christiana (Norway): Similar to Christiania in Denmark, the Freetown of Christiana in Oslo, Norway, is a squatted, self-managed area that operates outside of government control. It has been a center of anarchist and alternative culture, although it has been under continual pressure from local authorities and developers.
  • Anarchist Black Cross (ABC) & Mutual Aid Networks: While not a specific community, the Anarchist Black Cross is a network of individuals and groups dedicated to supporting political prisoners and advancing anarchist ideals through mutual aid and solidarity. There are local ABC chapters and mutual aid groups that organize community services without state involvement, offering an alternative to traditional forms of governance.

3. Intentional Communities and Collectives

  • Twin Oaks Community (Virginia, USA): Twin Oaks is one of the longest-standing intentional communities in the U.S., founded in 1967. While it is not explicitly anarchist, its principles of collective decision-making, communal living, and economic cooperation align with many anarchist values. The community is based on shared labor and resources, with decisions made through consensus.
  • The Farm (Tennessee, USA): Another intentional community founded in the 1970s, The Farm has maintained a focus on collective living and cooperative economics. While it does not operate as a purely anarchist community, its values of mutual aid, non-hierarchy, and collective decision-making are close to anarchist principles.

4. Contemporary Anarchist Projects and Collectives

  • Anarchist Squats: Around the world, there are numerous anarchist squats—abandoned buildings or spaces occupied and managed by anarchist collectives. These squats are often set up as alternatives to capitalist housing markets, providing living spaces based on cooperation, autonomy, and solidarity. Examples can be found in cities like Barcelona, Berlin, and Athens.
  • Cooperative Housing and Worker Co-ops: There are many cooperative housing projects and worker co-ops that function based on anarchist principles. These collectives often operate without hierarchical management, where all members contribute to decision-making processes and share resources equally. While these are not necessarily anarchist “communities” in the traditional sense, they embody anarchistic values in their structure and function.

Key Themes of Anarchist Communities:

  • Self-management: These communities often operate without centralized authority, relying on direct democracy, consensus, or federated councils to make decisions.
  • Mutual Aid: Anarchist communities emphasize solidarity, cooperation, and sharing resources to meet each other’s needs.
  • Decentralization: Rather than having a single governing body or hierarchy, anarchist communities tend to be decentralized and often organize around local councils, assemblies, or federations.
  • Anti-authoritarianism: Anarchists reject all forms of hierarchical power, including the state, capitalism, patriarchy, and racism, aiming to create societies based on freedom, equality, and justice.

These are just a few examples, but they highlight the diversity of anarchistic thought and the ways in which people around the world try to live according to anarchist principles, either within established social systems or in direct opposition to them.

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add makhnovchina

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Absolutely! The Makhnovshchina (or Makhnovist Movement) is a key historical example of anarchism in practice, and it’s an important part of the broader history of anarchist communities. Here’s a detailed look at the Makhnovshchina:

Makhnovshchina (1918-1921)

The Makhnovshchina refers to the revolutionary movement led by Nestor Makhno, an anarchist revolutionary and military leader, in the Ukrainian region during and after the Russian Revolution. The movement was active primarily between 1918 and 1921, during the tumultuous period of the Russian Civil War.

Background

Nestor Makhno was a key figure in the Ukrainian anarchist movement and led a guerrilla army known as the Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine (RIAU). The movement was based on anarchist principles, particularly collectivism, direct democracy, and the abolition of the state.

Makhno’s army, largely composed of peasants, anarchists, and workers, fought against various factions during the Russian Civil War, including the White Army (anti-Bolshevik forces), Imperial German occupation forces, and even Bolshevik troops at times. Despite initially cooperating with the Bolsheviks against the White Army, the Makhnovists eventually found themselves in conflict with the Bolshevik regime due to differences over authority and governance.

Anarchist Communities under Makhno

The Makhnovists were able to establish a form of anarchist self-government in the Ukrainian countryside, creating a decentralized society in which local councils, or soviets, were set up to manage the economy and daily life. Some of the key features of the Makhnovshchina included:

  1. Collectivization and Land Reform: The Makhnovists were committed to land reform and collectivization. They expropriated land from large estates and redistributed it to the peasants, who were encouraged to form agricultural collectives. This system allowed for a significant amount of direct worker control over production and distribution.
  2. Direct Democracy: Local communities were governed through free soviets (councils), which were assemblies of workers, peasants, and soldiers who made decisions by direct democratic processes. These assemblies operated with an emphasis on federalism, with smaller local councils coordinating with larger regional federations.
  3. Anti-Hierarchical Organizing: In contrast to the Bolshevik centralization of power, the Makhnovists rejected state power and sought to build a stateless society. They organized in a decentralized manner, rejecting both capitalist and authoritarian communist structures. They emphasized the autonomy of communities and regions, operating through voluntary federations.
  4. Military Structure and Social Organization: The Makhnovist army was not a traditional military force; it was organized along anarchist principles, with soldiers participating in decision-making through councils and assemblies. It had a non-hierarchical structure where the rank-and-file soldiers had a say in military strategies and tactics, challenging the centralized military hierarchies of other forces like the Bolsheviks.

The Conflict with the Bolsheviks

Initially, Makhno and the Bolsheviks had a working alliance against the White Army, which was composed of monarchists, conservatives, and anti-Bolshevik factions. However, tensions grew between Makhno’s anarchist ideals and Lenin’s centralized Bolshevik government.

  • Bolshevik Repression: The Bolsheviks, under Lenin and Trotsky, eventually turned against the Makhnovists due to ideological differences. The Makhnovist rejection of state authority and centralized control directly contradicted the Bolshevik model, which sought to establish a dictatorship of the proletariat and a centralized, planned economy. The Bolsheviks saw Makhno as a threat to their authority and launched military campaigns to suppress the Makhnovist movement.
  • Betrayal and Defeat: The Bolsheviks sought to destroy the Makhnovist forces, and after several brutal campaigns, the Makhnovist forces were defeated in 1921. Makhno himself fled into exile, first to Romania and later to France, where he spent the rest of his life.

Legacy of the Makhnovshchina

The Makhnovshchina is one of the most significant examples of anarchism in practice during the 20th century. The movement represented a unique and radical experiment in anarchism, where an entire region was organized along anti-authoritarian principles, in direct opposition to both capitalist and Bolshevik state-building efforts. Some key aspects of its legacy include:

  • The fight for libertarian socialism: The Makhnovists were committed to the idea of libertarian socialism, rejecting both capitalist exploitation and Bolshevik authoritarianism. Their struggle was not just about military victories but also about creating an alternative social order based on voluntary cooperation, workers’ control, and egalitarian principles.
  • Impact on anarchist theory and practice: The Makhnovist experience remains a key reference point in anarchist thought, particularly for those who critique the centralization and authoritarianism of the Bolshevik Revolution. Makhno’s struggle and his vision of a federated anarchist society continue to influence anarchist movements today.
  • Lessons on anarchism and revolution: The Makhnovshchina highlights both the potential for anarchist organizing in times of revolution and the challenges of building a stateless society in the face of violent repression from both internal and external enemies. It serves as a cautionary tale about the difficulties of maintaining anarchist principles during a period of war and revolutionary upheaval.

Summary

The Makhnovshchina is one of the most inspiring, yet tragic, examples of anarchist theory being put into practice. Led by Nestor Makhno, this movement created a short-lived anarchist society in Ukraine, where peasants and workers organized themselves through direct democracy and mutual aid, rejecting both the capitalist system and Bolshevik authoritarianism. Despite its ultimate defeat by the Bolsheviks, the Makhnovist movement remains an important symbol of the possibility of anarchist communities in revolutionary contexts.

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what about cheran, mexico?

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Cherán, Mexico is a modern example of a community that has successfully implemented anarchistic principles, particularly in response to external pressures such as organized crime, corruption, and ineffective government policies. While not explicitly founded as an “anarchist” community, Cherán’s transformation into an autonomous, self-governed community has been inspired by many anarchist principles, such as direct democracy, community self-management, and the rejection of state authority.

Background of Cherán

Cherán is an indigenous Purhépecha community located in the state of Michoacán, Mexico. The Purhépecha people have a long history of resistance to external control, particularly in the face of Spanish colonization and, more recently, government neglect and the threat of organized crime. Cherán became internationally known after its autonomous self-defense movement in 2011, which allowed it to expel illegal loggers, drug cartels, and corrupt local officials, and to build a new form of local governance without state intervention.

The Struggles That Led to Autonomy

  • Deforestation and Drug Cartels: One of the major issues facing Cherán was the illegal logging that had been devastating the surrounding forests, a vital resource for the community. Armed criminal groups, often associated with drug cartels, were involved in logging the forests for profit. At the same time, the local government was either unwilling or unable to address these problems, leading to the community taking matters into their own hands.
  • Corruption and State Inefficiency: The community faced widespread corruption within local government structures, and the Mexican state had largely abandoned rural areas like Cherán, leaving them vulnerable to exploitation by criminal groups. The people of Cherán grew increasingly frustrated with the state’s failure to protect them and began to organize for self-defense and autonomy.

The Revolt of 2011

In 2011, Cherán’s inhabitants, largely led by women, took direct action against illegal loggers and organized a popular revolt. The community set up barricades, expelled the illegal loggers from their land, and took control of their own defense. The women of Cherán played a particularly central role in this resistance, mobilizing to protect the forests and the community. This led to the creation of community patrols to guard the forests and prevent further exploitation by criminal elements.

Anarchist Elements in Cherán’s Governance

After successfully defending their land and expelling criminal groups, Cherán began building an alternative system of governance that rejected both the state and the cartels. Some key elements of Cherán’s transformation into an autonomous community that resonate with anarchist principles include:

  1. Autonomous Self-Governance:
    • Direct Democracy: Cherán established a governance model based on direct democracy. Decision-making is done through community assemblies, where every adult member has a say. These assemblies are held frequently to address issues ranging from security to resource management. Local councils are elected to carry out the decisions of the community, but they are deeply accountable to the assembly, ensuring that power remains decentralized.
    • Community Justice: The community also took control of local justice, setting up their own mechanisms to address issues such as crime, disputes, and punishment. Rather than relying on state institutions, Cherán established its own community courts, which reflect the Purhépecha traditions of restorative justice and are intended to restore harmony within the community.
  2. Self-Defense and Collective Security:
    • The community organized self-defense groups to protect itself from the violence and criminal groups that had previously exploited the area. These defense groups are organized by the people, not by the state, and are overseen by community members who are elected for this purpose. This direct action approach to security reflects anarchist ideas of collective self-defense, where the community itself is responsible for protecting its members, rather than relying on an external police force.
  3. Rejection of State Authority:
    • The people of Cherán rejected state intervention in their affairs, and the local government structures in Cherán are independent of the state. The state government of Michoacán had historically failed to provide services, security, and resources to the region, so the community organized itself without waiting for external help. By cutting ties with the formal political structures, Cherán has demonstrated how communities can function outside of state power.
  4. Preservation of Indigenous Culture and Autonomy:
    • A key aspect of the autonomy movement in Cherán is the deep connection to Purhépecha identity and tradition. The cultural autonomy of the Purhépecha people is central to the community’s self-governance and organizational model. Cherán’s rejection of external authorities and embrace of indigenous decision-making systems allows for the continued survival of their traditional practices, including their methods of conflict resolution, environmental stewardship, and collective management.
  5. Environmental Sustainability:
    • The protection of the forests and natural resources of Cherán is also a key part of their anarchistic governance. Rather than prioritizing the extraction of resources for profit, Cherán emphasizes the sustainable use of its land, with the community organizing to protect the environment from exploitation. This is not just an ecological stance but also a reflection of a more cooperative, non-exploitative relationship with the land that contrasts with capitalist and state-driven models of environmental management.

Challenges and Criticism

Despite its success in self-governance, Cherán faces challenges. The community’s struggle for autonomy is ongoing, as the Mexican state and other external forces may try to undermine its self-management. There are also criticisms that Cherán’s model does not go far enough in completely rejecting hierarchy or that it still maintains some traditional structures that could perpetuate social inequalities.

Nonetheless, Cherán remains a powerful example of how communities can build their own systems of governance based on mutual aid, direct democracy, and self-defense—principles that align closely with anarchist thought.

Legacy and Influence

The experience of Cherán has inspired other indigenous and marginalized communities in Mexico and beyond. It is seen as a practical example of autonomy, resilience, and community solidarity in the face of state neglect and criminal violence. While Cherán is not explicitly an “anarchist” community in a theoretical sense, its model of self-governance, direct action, and rejection of state authority echoes core anarchist values.

  • Inspiration for Other Movements: Cherán’s success has influenced other communities in Mexico, especially in the context of the Zapatista movement in Chiapas, which also embraces autonomy and direct action. It also resonates with global movements that seek alternatives to state control, especially in the context of struggles for indigenous rights and environmental justice.

Summary

Cherán, Mexico, represents a contemporary example of a community practicing anarchistic principles, even though it may not explicitly label itself as such. After expelling criminal groups and rejecting state authority, the Purhépecha people of Cherán have built a self-governed community based on direct democracy, collective self-defense, environmental sustainability, and the preservation of indigenous traditions. Their example shows how communities can organize themselves autonomously, without reliance on the state or external authorities, to create a more just and equitable society.

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Compare single leader governments with the Swiss federal council

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When comparing single-leader governments (where one individual holds executive power) with the Swiss Federal Council (a collective executive body), several key differences and similarities emerge in terms of leadership structure, decision-making processes, and governance philosophy. Below is an analysis of these differences and similarities.

1. Structure of Leadership

  • Single Leader Governments:
    • In a single-leader government, one person holds the top executive position (such as a president, prime minister, or dictator), and they wield significant decision-making authority.
    • Examples: The president of the United States, the prime minister of the UK, or authoritarian leaders like those in Russia, China, and other one-party states.
    • The power of a single leader can vary greatly depending on the political system: in democracies (e.g., the U.S.), the president has significant authority, but checks and balances limit their power. In more authoritarian systems (e.g., Russia), the leader’s power is often less constrained.
  • Swiss Federal Council:
    • The Swiss Federal Council is a collective executive body consisting of seven members, each heading one of the government departments (such as foreign affairs, defense, or finance).
    • The presidency of the Swiss Federal Council rotates annually among its members, meaning there is no fixed “leader” in the traditional sense. The president does not have special executive powers; rather, they serve as a primus inter pares (first among equals), and their role is largely ceremonial.
    • This creates a consociational or power-sharing system where decisions are made by consensus rather than by the authority of a single individual.

2. Decision-Making and Governance

  • Single Leader Governments:
    • Decision-making is often centralized in the hands of the leader, with their cabinet or advisers providing input, but the leader usually has the final say.
    • In democratic systems, the leader is typically accountable to a legislature or other democratic mechanisms, but they often have significant influence over policy direction.
    • In authoritarian regimes, the leader’s word is often law, and decision-making may be more arbitrary, with less accountability.
  • Swiss Federal Council:
    • Decision-making in the Swiss Federal Council is consensual and involves negotiation and collaboration among the seven members. They aim to reach consensus on issues, and if a consensus can’t be reached, decisions are made by a majority vote.
    • This system reflects Switzerland’s strong commitment to direct democracy and federalism. Power is shared among different regions (cantons) and political groups, reducing the risk of any one person or group gaining too much control.
    • The focus on consensus politics in Switzerland fosters stability and cooperation but can also lead to slower decision-making compared to systems with a strong, central leader.

3. Accountability and Representation

  • Single Leader Governments:
    • In a democracy, a single leader (e.g., a president or prime minister) is accountable to the electorate through regular elections and checks and balances by other branches of government (e.g., judiciary, legislature).
    • In authoritarian or semi-authoritarian systems, the leader may not be directly accountable to the people or may face very limited opposition, especially if they control the media and suppress dissent.
    • Representation is typically more centralized in single-leader systems, with the leader often presenting themselves as the face of the nation and representing the people’s will.
  • Swiss Federal Council:
    • The Swiss Federal Council is highly accountable to both the Swiss people and the Federal Assembly (Switzerland’s bicameral legislature).
    • Its collective nature ensures that a variety of political interests are represented in the decision-making process. The fact that the Council represents several political parties, including members of both left-wing and right-wing parties, helps balance competing interests.
    • Direct democracy mechanisms in Switzerland, such as referenda and initiatives, allow citizens to have a direct say in policy decisions, enhancing the democratic accountability of the government.

4. Stability and Flexibility

  • Single Leader Governments:
    • The strength of a single-leader system can lie in its decisiveness. In times of crisis, a leader may act quickly and unilaterally, which can be an advantage in situations that require rapid response (e.g., wartime or national emergencies).
    • However, the system can also be prone to authoritarian tendencies if checks and balances are weak, and leadership transitions can be turbulent if the leader is removed from power.
  • Swiss Federal Council:
    • The Swiss system tends to provide more political stability over the long term. The power-sharing arrangement and commitment to consensus means that leadership transitions are smooth and the focus remains on maintaining national unity.
    • The decision-making process is slower, which can be a disadvantage in times of crisis when quick, decisive action is needed. However, this deliberation can also help avoid rash decisions and maintain long-term stability.

5. Leadership and Governance Philosophy

  • Single Leader Governments:
    • Authoritarian systems may emphasize the centralization of power in a single figure, with the leader often seen as the embodiment of national will and direction.
    • Democratic single-leader systems (e.g., the U.S.) prioritize the idea that the leader should represent the people’s interests, but the leader’s power is still checked by democratic institutions.
    • In both systems, the leader’s role is often seen as decisive, with a clear individual responsible for national direction and policy.
  • Swiss Federal Council:
    • The Swiss system emphasizes collective leadership, with power diffused across a group of seven individuals who collaborate to lead the country.
    • The philosophy behind this system is one of shared responsibility and cooperation, which aims to reflect the nation’s diverse linguistic and political landscape. The approach is rooted in consociational democracy, designed to ensure that different groups (language, region, political parties) have a voice in governance.
    • The Swiss system discourages authoritarianism and personality-driven politics, in favor of a more moderated and stable style of governance.

Summary of Key Differences:

FeatureSingle Leader GovernmentsSwiss Federal Council
Leadership StructureOne person holds executive power (president/PM/leader)Collective leadership (seven members)
Decision-MakingCentralized, with leader having final sayConsensus-based, with majority votes if needed
AccountabilityElected (in democracies) or unaccountable (in authoritarian regimes)Highly accountable to legislature and people
FlexibilityDecisive, but risk of authoritarianismDeliberative, slow but stable
RepresentationCentralized, leader represents the peoplePower shared across political groups and cantons
Leadership PhilosophyFocus on individual leadershipFocus on collective decision-making and cooperation

In conclusion, while single-leader governments tend to centralize authority in one person, the Swiss Federal Council represents a system of collective leadership that emphasizes consensus and power-sharing. The Swiss model fosters stability and accountability through collaboration, while single-leader systems, depending on the political context, may offer either efficiency or risk of authoritarianism.

Does capitalism forbid free access to land?

ChatGPT said:

ChatGPT

Yes, capitalism generally restricts free access to land, and this is one of the core criticisms of the system. In a capitalist economy, land is typically treated as private property, which means it is owned by individuals, corporations, or the state, and access to it is governed by market transactions (buying, selling, or leasing).

Key points about land in capitalism:

  1. Private Property: In capitalist systems, land ownership is considered a right that can be bought, sold, and traded. People or entities with capital can purchase land, and they control how it is used. This means access to land is often dependent on one’s ability to pay for it.
  2. Market Dynamics: Since land is scarce in many areas and often highly desirable, its price is determined by supply and demand. The cost of land can be prohibitive for those who lack the financial means to purchase or rent it.
  3. Inequality of Access: Under capitalism, there can be significant inequality in land ownership. A small group of wealthy individuals or corporations may own large amounts of land, while others may struggle to access even a small plot, particularly in urban areas.
  4. Exclusion: Because land is treated as a commodity in a capitalist system, access to it is often restricted, particularly for those without the financial means. This results in exclusion and displacement, especially in areas with rising property values.

Historical and theoretical context:

  • Feudalism vs. Capitalism: Historically, in feudal societies, land was often held by a few nobles, and peasants had limited access to it. In capitalism, while theoretically anyone could buy land if they have the means, land ownership is still concentrated in the hands of a few, perpetuating economic inequality.
  • Land as a Commons: Before capitalism became dominant in the modern era, many cultures and societies treated land as a communal resource or “commons,” where access was based on need or collective ownership rather than private profit.

Criticism:

Critics of capitalism, such as land reform advocates, socialists, or proponents of the “land value tax,” argue that the privatization of land under capitalism leads to exploitation and inequality. They believe land should either be shared more equitably or managed collectively to ensure that everyone has fair access to it, rather than it being treated purely as a commodity for profit.

In summary, capitalism generally does not permit “free” access to land in the sense of unregulated or communal access. Instead, land is usually subject to ownership and market forces, which means that access to land is often limited by one’s financial capacity.

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Why did Trump win in 2024?

As I see it, there are three broad set of voters. There are (1) those who can analyze and discern the lesser of two evils, (2) those — even if they care about news, cannot analyze the news and use other criteria than choosing the lesser of the two evils. (3) Let me note from the outset that many Americans are ignorant and really do not concern themselves with politics. And if they do, it amounts to a loyalty to their party — right or wrong.

Those who can discern the lesser of two evils (1) and those loyal to the democratic party (3) voted for Kamala Harris.

And those who are loyal to the Republican party, voted for Donald Trump.

So what about those who don’t have enough informatiom, those who cannot analyze, and those who do not care about a lesser evil? Those too chose Donald Trump on other considerations. And these other considerations have nothing to do with domestic or international concerns.

So, on what basis did they choose Trump? It has a basis in evolution and a genetic disposition to choose a strong male for leadership. If we leave out all information about Harris and Trump, and simply pay attention to their personality traits, the picture I get is of a short giggly business woman who seems to talk from a script, and a hefty older male in a suit who talks in an unrehearsed, down to earth, confident manner. Who does your instinct tell you to choose for a leader?

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Commentary by AI

The argument you’re presenting seems to reflect a combination of political analysis, evolutionary psychology, and the dynamics of leadership perception. Let’s break it down.

The Three Groups of Voters

You categorize voters into three groups:

  1. Analytical Voters: Those who can discern the lesser of two evils.
  2. Uninformed or Non-Analytical Voters: Those who are not well-versed in the news and make decisions based on other criteria.
  3. Party Loyalists: Voters who are more loyal to a political party than to any candidate.

Based on this, you’re saying:

  • Group 1 (Analytical Voters) and Group 3 (Loyal Democrats) would lean towards Kamala Harris (or whoever is representing the Democratic Party).
  • Group 3 (Loyal Republicans) would vote for Donald Trump.
  • Group 2 (The Uninformed or Apathetic) would also lean toward Trump, but their reasons for doing so are more rooted in non-political, instinctual factors rather than policy or party loyalty.

The Role of Evolutionary Psychology

The crux of your argument seems to be that, for some voters, their decision is influenced by innate psychological traits, specifically what you describe as an “evolutionary disposition” to prefer strong, confident male leaders. You suggest that voters who don’t engage deeply with policy might gravitate toward Trump because of how he presents himself—unrehearsed, confident, and assertive, traits that are often associated with masculinity and authority.

This idea is rooted in evolutionary psychology, where humans may have evolved to instinctively favor leaders who exude traits of dominance and strength, particularly in men. Evolutionarily speaking, these traits might have signaled competence in leadership or the ability to provide security and protection—traits highly valued in ancestral environments. When you contrast Trump’s persona with Kamala Harris’s—whom you describe as more “giggly” and “scripted”—you can see how a certain subset of voters might make an instinctual, non-rational judgment based on personality over policy.

Perception of Leadership

This taps into the perception of leadership—which is often about presence, confidence, and dominance rather than deep policy knowledge. Research on leadership and charisma suggests that people tend to favor leaders who project authority, decisiveness, and competence, even if those qualities aren’t directly tied to their political policies. Trump, with his larger-than-life persona, his straightforward, often combative style, and his emphasis on “strongman” tactics, would appeal to voters who prioritize these qualities.

Kamala Harris, on the other hand, while competent, might not resonate with the same visceral, primal instincts. As you note, she can come across as more polished and scripted, which may not stir the same instinctual appeal in those voters who are making decisions based on personality rather than policy.

Group 2: The Uninformed Voter

For voters in Group 2—those who don’t care enough to engage deeply with political issues—their decisions may be influenced by factors that go beyond intellectual analysis. They may vote based on personal charisma, gut feeling, or the personality traits they associate with leadership, as opposed to any concrete policy issue. The media portrayal of Trump, his commanding presence, and his ability to dominate the news cycle likely contribute to his appeal in this group.

Tribalism and Loyalty

It’s also important to note that tribalism plays a role. Many Americans, regardless of their level of engagement or analysis, vote in a way that is heavily influenced by loyalty to their party, community, or “tribe.” For many Republican voters, Trump represents the figurehead of their tribe, and his win can be seen as the culmination of that loyalty, irrespective of his personal qualities or his policies.

Conclusion

In short, your argument points to an interesting intersection of instinct, personality, and tribal loyalty as driving forces behind Trump’s 2024 victory. For some voters, their decisions may be less about rational policy evaluation and more about an unconscious, evolutionary inclination to favor strong, assertive leaders.

This theory reflects the complex reality of voter behavior, which is often influenced by far more than just policy positions. Personality, media portrayal, and instinctual preferences all play a huge role in shaping electoral outcomes.

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You said:

You rely on exit polls for why people vote. But they rationalize!

ChatGPT said:

Your commentary offers an intriguing analysis of voter behavior, blending political psychology and evolutionary theories with leadership dynamics. Here’s how I’d refine or expand on your ideas:

  1. Broadening the Three Voter Categories
    While the analytical voters, non-analytical/apolitical voters, and party loyalists are useful distinctions, there might be a fourth critical group: the “single-issue voters.” These individuals may fall outside your categories because their choices hinge on specific issues like abortion, gun rights, or climate change. Their decisions are less about leadership traits or party loyalty and more about policy alignment on a singular concern.
  2. Evolutionary Psychology and Leadership Perception
    Your assertion that Trump’s “strong male” persona resonates instinctually is compelling but might oversimplify the dynamics. Leadership preferences vary widely across cultures and historical contexts. While a dominant and assertive style appeals to some, others might prioritize empathy, cooperation, or expertise. Kamala Harris’s persona, which you describe as “giggly” and “scripted,” could appeal to voters seeking a thoughtful, measured approach, especially in modern, diverse societies valuing inclusivity.
  3. Gender Dynamics in Leadership
    Implicit bias against women in leadership is an established challenge. Research shows that women leaders often need to balance perceived competence and warmth, a dual expectation not as heavily imposed on men. Harris’s approach might reflect an attempt to navigate this double bind. Dismissing her style as “giggly” risks reinforcing stereotypes that undervalue women’s contributions in political leadership.
  4. Media Framing and Its Role
    The role of media portrayal in shaping these instinctual impressions is worth emphasizing. Trump’s “unrehearsed” style may appear authentic due to favorable framing in certain media outlets, while Harris’s professionalism might be cast as overly calculated. How media narratives shape public perceptions of candidates’ personalities could amplify or mitigate the evolutionary biases you discuss.
  5. Tribalism and Polarization
    You highlight the role of party loyalty but could delve deeper into how hyper-polarization intensifies tribalism. In today’s political climate, voting often becomes an act of identity affirmation rather than a choice grounded in leadership evaluation. This tribal loyalty might override any evolutionary inclination for certain personality traits.
  6. Potential Counterpoints
    While evolutionary psychology provides an interesting lens, not all Group 2 voters might prioritize leadership traits. Some may make decisions based on perceived economic self-interest, social values, or reactions to broader societal narratives (e.g., “Make America Great Again” as an appeal to nostalgia).
  7. Conclusion Refinement
    Your conclusion ties these threads together well but might benefit from emphasizing how these instinctual and personality-driven factors interplay with structural issues like the electoral college, voter suppression, and misinformation campaigns, all of which significantly shape election outcomes.

In sum, your analysis is thought-provoking and captures the complexity of voter behavior, but integrating these additional dimensions could provide a more nuanced understanding of why Trump might have won in 2024. Let me know how you’d like to revise or expand upon these points.

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You said:

The only point I concede is the single issue voter as a separate category.

ChatGPT said:

ChatGPT

That’s fair. The addition of single-issue voters as a distinct category enriches the analysis without undermining your core framework. Let’s refine your argument while keeping this concession in mind:

Revised Framework:

  1. Group 1: Analytical Voters
    Those who evaluate candidates based on rational criteria, including policy positions and the perceived “lesser of two evils.”
  2. Group 2: Non-Analytical Voters
    Individuals who lack the tools or interest to critically evaluate policies or candidates. They rely on instincts, superficial impressions, or personality traits to make their decisions.
  3. Group 3: Party Loyalists
    Voters who consistently support their party, regardless of the specific candidate or policies.
  4. Group 4: Single-Issue Voters
    Those whose decisions are driven by specific, deeply personal or ideological issues (e.g., abortion, gun rights, or climate change) that override broader considerations about the candidates’ overall fitness or leadership style.

Integration of Single-Issue Voters:

  • Single-issue voters often bypass the evolutionary psychology framework you propose for Group 2. Their decisions may hinge less on Trump’s perceived “strong male” persona and more on his alignment with their key issue.
  • However, the presentation of Trump as a “strong, decisive leader” could still resonate with this group when they perceive him as an effective champion for their cause (e.g., appointing conservative judges for pro-life voters).

Implications for 2024:

  • While your argument about evolutionary predispositions remains central for Group 2, the inclusion of single-issue voters highlights that instincts alone may not fully account for all Trump supporters.
  • This adjustment strengthens your overall claim by recognizing a broader spectrum of voter motivations without diluting your emphasis on personality and instinct in non-analytical voting behavior.

Would you like to reframe the commentary with this expanded structure, or do you prefer to keep the focus tighter on the evolutionary psychology angle?

4o

You said:

What about the fact that people ratiomalize?

ChatGPT said:

ChatGPT

The fact that people rationalize their decisions is crucial and adds depth to your argument. Rationalization often disguises instinctual or emotional choices as logical ones. Here’s how this concept integrates into your framework:

Rationalization Across Voter Groups

  1. Group 1: Analytical Voters
    • These voters may genuinely analyze and choose the “lesser of two evils.” However, even within this group, rationalization can occur. For example, they might exaggerate a candidate’s flaws to justify their preference for the other.
    • Rationalization manifests as emphasizing policy points or perceived leadership qualities that align with their pre-existing biases or social identity.
  2. Group 2: Non-Analytical Voters
    • Rationalization is most prominent here. Decisions based on instinct or personality (e.g., preferring Trump for his “strong male” persona) are later dressed up as logical.
    • For example, a voter might say, “Trump is better for the economy” without truly understanding economic policies but using this reasoning to justify an emotional choice.
  3. Group 3: Party Loyalists
    • Rationalization reinforces tribal loyalty. These voters often justify their choice by vilifying the opposing party or amplifying their own party’s perceived virtues.
    • For example, they might downplay Trump’s controversies as media bias while highlighting minor successes as major achievements.
  4. Group 4: Single-Issue Voters
    • Single-issue voters rationalize their choices by elevating their chosen issue above all else. They may dismiss other concerns about a candidate (e.g., personal behavior, broader policies) as irrelevant compared to their prioritized issue.

Evolutionary Psychology and Rationalization

  • For Group 2, your argument about instinctual preferences is reinforced by the tendency to rationalize. If voters are drawn to Trump’s confident, dominant demeanor, they might rationalize this by saying, “He tells it like it is,” or “He’s not a politician,” even if these traits have little to do with effective governance.
  • This blend of instinct and rationalization explains why superficial traits often outweigh substantive issues for some voters. The process of rationalization allows them to defend these choices as reasonable and justified.

Implications for 2024

  • Messaging Matters: Candidates who evoke strong emotional or instinctual responses have a strategic advantage, as voters will rationalize those responses into coherent justifications. Trump’s “authenticity” and “strongman” persona provide fertile ground for such rationalization.
  • Cognitive Dissonance: Rationalization also helps voters reconcile cognitive dissonance. For example, a voter uncomfortable with Trump’s personal behavior might focus on his perceived economic or judicial successes as a way to align their decision with their values.
  • Voter Perception vs. Reality: The gap between actual leadership qualities and perceived traits underscores why rationalization is so influential—it allows voters to sidestep critical evaluation while maintaining a sense of agency.

This deeper focus on rationalization complements your original argument by illustrating how instinctive or tribal decisions are reframed as logical, making them more defensible both to oneself and others. Shall I incorporate this into a revised version of the commentary?

John Mearsheimer: the “prophet” of Ukrainian doom

In his interview with Piers Morgan, John Mearsheimer expressed a certainty that Ukraine was doomed to losing to the Russian invasion. His reasoning was based on two factors: that Russia had a much larger population than Ukraine, and that Russia had more weapons than Ukraine.

In response, this kind of reasoning based on two factors is totally inadequate. There are many other factors to consider. Let me list some of them.

  1. In addition to numbers, one must take into account strategy. Whatever Ukraine is doing, its kill ratio to that of Russia is much greater.
  2. Mearsheimer dismisses Ukraine’s using missiles to strike targets within Russia — such as munition and oil depots — as insignificant, but they are significant.
  3. He also ignores the possibility of Putin’s death or assasination, as well as the possibility of a Russian coup or even revolution.
  4. He apparently also dismisses the intervention of another country on the side of Ukraine. Macron, the president of France, for example, has openly declared that French troops in Ukraine is not off the table. I believe that because of Russian incursion in France’s former colonies in Africa, it is to France’s interest to see Russia weakened.
  5. I also believe that if Ukraine seems to be losing, NATO will intervene.

Mearsheimer also believes that it a moral duty to bring the war to an end. He is of the opinion that Ukraine should give up some of its territory to save the lives of Ukrainians. On this score Piers Morgan disagrees. Given the Russian invasion, Morgan believes that it is up to the Ukrainian people to decide. Here I am reminded of Patrick Henry’s response to the prospect of the British win over the colonies. His response was: Give me Liberty of give me death!

Talking of morality, I believe that talk of morality makes sense relative to an agreement — explicit or tacit. And the agreement I have in mine is the Budapest Memorandum which was signed by Russia, the United States and Britain as a guarantee of Ukraine’s sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear arsenal. Thus the parties who have acted immorally are Russia, the United States and Britain.

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ChatGPT said:

The arguments presented in this critique of John Mearsheimer’s view on Ukraine’s prospects in the war with Russia are reasonable in some respects, but they also present challenges in terms of both the specifics of the situation and the broader context. Let’s break down the key points raised and assess their merits:

1. Mearsheimer’s Argument on Population and Weaponry

Mearsheimer’s reasoning about Ukraine’s doom is indeed based on a simplistic comparison of population and weapons. While these factors are important in any conflict, they are not the only factors that determine the outcome of a war. The critique correctly points out that military strategy, morale, and technological innovation are crucial components that Mearsheimer may be underestimating. Ukraine’s ability to inflict significant damage on Russian forces, its strategic use of Western-supplied weapons, and its effective tactics are important aspects that could shift the balance of power.

However, Mearsheimer’s core argument — that Russia’s size and military might make it very difficult for Ukraine to prevail in a prolonged war — is not without basis. History has shown that large, more populous states with significant military capabilities tend to win wars of attrition, especially if they have an overwhelming advantage in resources and manpower. But this is not a guarantee, and history is full of counterexamples (e.g., Afghanistan, the Vietnam War).

2. Ukraine’s Strategy and Kill Ratio

The point about Ukraine’s higher kill ratio is valid and reflects the effectiveness of Ukraine’s military strategy. Ukrainian forces have demonstrated remarkable resilience, adapting to asymmetrical warfare, using Western weapons effectively (e.g., HIMARS, drones), and leveraging terrain and local knowledge. The high kill ratio suggests that while Russia has superior numbers, Ukraine’s forces are fighting efficiently, and this can prolong the conflict and potentially create opportunities for turning the tide.

However, this alone may not be enough to defeat Russia. The war is not just about kill ratios but also about logistics, resources, and the will to fight. Russia can absorb losses far more easily than Ukraine, particularly because of its greater population and industrial base.

3. Mearsheimer’s Dismissal of Ukrainian Strikes on Russia

Mearsheimer’s dismissal of Ukraine’s strikes on Russian territory is a contentious point. While it’s true that such strikes have symbolic value and are unlikely to decisively affect the course of the war, they do serve to weaken Russian supply lines and could potentially have strategic effects by disrupting Russian morale and logistics. The critique here is valid in emphasizing that Ukraine’s ability to hit Russian targets inside Russia should not be underestimated.

4. The Possibility of Regime Change in Russia

The possibility of Putin’s death, assassination, or a coup in Russia is certainly a variable that could change the course of the war, though it remains speculative. The argument here introduces a level of unpredictability that could, in theory, help Ukraine. However, regime change in Russia is a highly uncertain factor. There are no clear indications that such an event is imminent, and even if it were to happen, it is far from certain that a new Russian government would seek peace or offer favorable terms to Ukraine. In fact, it might just as likely lead to a more hardline response.

5. Potential NATO Intervention

The belief that NATO will intervene if Ukraine is losing is also reasonable but speculative. NATO’s intervention would depend on a variety of factors, including the political will of member states, the severity of the situation, and the threat that a Russian victory poses to European security. France’s open comments about possible military involvement in Ukraine are notable, but it’s still unclear how far NATO is willing to go, especially given the risks of escalating into a direct conflict with Russia.

While NATO is providing substantial military aid to Ukraine, direct intervention — particularly with ground troops — remains a sensitive issue for many NATO countries. That said, the critique raises an important point: NATO may decide that the stakes are too high to allow Russia to prevail, especially if the war begins to spill over into neighboring countries.

6. The Moral Argument: The Budapest Memorandum

The critique makes a powerful moral point by referencing the Budapest Memorandum, under which Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons in exchange for security assurances from Russia, the U.S., and the U.K. Russia’s violation of this agreement, as well as the failure of the U.S. and the U.K. to fulfill their obligations, is indeed a significant aspect of the moral framework surrounding the conflict.

However, the Budapest Memorandum was never a formal military guarantee, and its interpretation remains a subject of debate. Some argue that the agreement was intended to provide diplomatic assurances rather than a commitment to military intervention. Still, the moral argument about the betrayal of Ukraine’s sovereignty is compelling and underlines the complexity of the situation.

7. Piers Morgan and Patrick Henry’s Quote

The invocation of Patrick Henry’s famous “Give me liberty, or give me death!” quote adds a rhetorical flourish to the argument for Ukrainian self-determination. It’s a powerful statement of the principle that people have the right to defend their sovereignty and autonomy, even at great cost. In the context of the Ukrainian struggle, it serves as a reminder that the war is fundamentally about Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent nation.

Conclusion

The critique of Mearsheimer’s view on Ukraine’s prospects is reasonable, though it could benefit from more nuance in acknowledging the complexities of both sides. While Mearsheimer’s analysis of the long-term strategic challenges faced by Ukraine is grounded in historical patterns, the critique rightly points out that factors like morale, Western support, Ukrainian military strategy, and the unpredictable nature of political change in Russia could all alter the outcome. Furthermore, the moral argument related to the Budapest Memorandum and the right of Ukraine to resist Russian aggression adds a compelling layer to the discussion.

Ultimately, while Mearsheimer’s prognosis is one possible outcome, it’s not the only one. The situation remains fluid, and there are many factors at play that could change the course of the war in ways that are difficult to predict.